The Classic Rover Forum, for all classic Rover enthusiasts  

Correct temp sender?

Electrical related issues
Forum rules
Please respect other forum users, no insults, bad language etc.. No for sale adverts. Please do not post negative supplier / product reviews, positive reviews are welcome. No posts relating to the running / organisation of any car Club.

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby rp61973 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:31 pm

My V8 suffered exactly the same problem around 6 years ago when it was in with the tuners for a rolling road tweak. They phoned me to say they couldn't push it too far as the temperature went into the red when on the road for a little while.

The nice man from the tuners helped me check out the problem; he used one of those infra red thermometers and then commented to me that it wasn't actaully running hot. After they finished the tune up (with the needle in the red), I changed the NEW sensor over (I subsequently bought a replacement from JRW). Fixed the problem straight away. It seemed at the time there was a rogue batch of sensors in circulation.
1973 3500 Auto, Monza Red Exterior with Ebony Interior and now with real wood interior trim! Been told it may be a NZ CKD car that was sold in the home market.
User avatar
rp61973
 
Posts: 295
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:16 am
Location: Galleywood, Essex

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby rockdemon on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:50 pm

Good to know it's not just me! Thing is every other one i've read about changing the sender fixed it...

Rich
Sleipnir (aka PAE !) now has an engine - check! weldathon complete - check! 235000 miles + at least 15 years without the speedo connected!

Image
hybrid theory!
Image
User avatar
rockdemon
 
Posts: 5047
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:17 pm
Location: loughborough

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby chrisyork on Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:47 am

Not the first thread I've read with this problem by a long shot! I've also not read a transferrable technique to finish up with the correct one! I think I might wait until Ian is back from the US and have a chat with him. Then if all else fails you could always buy one from JRW1

Chris
"Lucky", '70 3500 (4.6 and ZF in waiting)
"Baby Rover", '89 216 VDP Auto 30k mls
chrisyork
 
Posts: 4914
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:06 pm
Location: Bristol and Thailand

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby Demetris on Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:58 am

Rich, is your temperature gauge reading 85 C at the middle of the green and 100 C at the red like mine?
Then, the section between the green and red is exactly 90 C.
Given the fact that you are running an 88 C thermostat, i am not surprised at all that your engine runs at 90 C!
After all the 87,5 C reading of the infrared is close enough to justify a deviation.
Image Image
User avatar
Demetris
 
Posts: 1309
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: Thessaloniki, Greece

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby rockdemon on Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:45 pm

I've drawn on this pic where it points when hot... (Cant drive it at the moment as i'm waiting on a handbrake cable as discussed previously...)

Image

Rich.
Sleipnir (aka PAE !) now has an engine - check! weldathon complete - check! 235000 miles + at least 15 years without the speedo connected!

Image
hybrid theory!
Image
User avatar
rockdemon
 
Posts: 5047
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:17 pm
Location: loughborough

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby Demetris on Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:03 pm

Hmm, i see, mine's a bit different...
Attachments
DSC00234.JPG
DSC00234.JPG (102.57 KiB) Viewed 278 times
Image Image
User avatar
Demetris
 
Posts: 1309
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: Thessaloniki, Greece

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby rockdemon on Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:07 pm

guess that's a 4cyl vs v8 difference :) I can see why you said that from your pic.

RIch
Sleipnir (aka PAE !) now has an engine - check! weldathon complete - check! 235000 miles + at least 15 years without the speedo connected!

Image
hybrid theory!
Image
User avatar
rockdemon
 
Posts: 5047
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:17 pm
Location: loughborough

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby DaveHerns on Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:30 pm

If you know it's not overheating , can you tweak the gauge a bit to make the reading less worrying?
Dave
Image

P6 Club Member No 1570
DaveHerns
 
Posts: 4774
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:07 pm
Location: Worcester Park Surrey

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby rockdemon on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:38 pm

might be worth a go - would like to prove the problem is definitely the gauge though so that it's all correct if that makes any sense?

I'm very aware that a lot of the electrics on the car seem to have been hacked about so I'd like to gradually bring it back to standard/documented... just my own decent wiring diagram and overhaul from end to end.

Rich
Sleipnir (aka PAE !) now has an engine - check! weldathon complete - check! 235000 miles + at least 15 years without the speedo connected!

Image
hybrid theory!
Image
User avatar
rockdemon
 
Posts: 5047
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:17 pm
Location: loughborough

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby Mark on Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:23 pm

rockdemon wrote:I need to get the incorrect sender off PAE but need to make sure i get the right one this time.

The parts diagrams suggest the sender is number 568055. Question is does this match jag and landy part numbers?

e.g. will these be the right ones?

http://www.land-rover-parts-shop.com/en ... 8055&stp=s

or

http://www.lrdirect.com/568055-Water-Te ... KgodVkVzfg

Thanks,

Rich.


are these the same for 4 cylender P6 ? if not any1 know the part no for the 2200tc
Mark
 
Posts: 84
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:16 am
Location: Luton,Bedfordshire

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby colnerov on Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:58 pm

colnerov
 
Posts: 875
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:01 pm
Location: Nr Gatwick

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby chrisyork on Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:24 pm

hi Colin

That's John Windwood selling. If he doesn't know which one is correct, then nobody does!

Chris
"Lucky", '70 3500 (4.6 and ZF in waiting)
"Baby Rover", '89 216 VDP Auto 30k mls
chrisyork
 
Posts: 4914
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:06 pm
Location: Bristol and Thailand

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby Mark on Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:38 pm

Thanks for the link Colin just pressed the buy it now button :D
Mark
 
Posts: 84
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:16 am
Location: Luton,Bedfordshire

Re: Correct temp sender?

Postby testrider on Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:47 pm

I got one of those for my TC, looks just the job.
User avatar
testrider
 
Posts: 1521
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:32 pm
Location: Nottingham

Previous

Return to Electrics

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest